I spent some time earlier today trying to get my ahead around the whole Pew typology, as something(s) about it just left me … discombobulated. My first hint that something wasn’t right was – after taking the little short test to see where I fit – being classified as a Solid Liberal, only to see how often I was in the minority of Solid Liberals on specific topics. But I set that aside as just my personal discomfort being associated with brie and tofu eaters. Then I found this:
If more than 1 in 3 people classified as “Libertarian” are willing to “Give up privacy for safety from terrorism” but less than 1 in 4 “Solid Liberals” would do so, then something is just wrong with the typology, or the names. All the more reason I tell people I am a Libertarian Communist….
Pew needs more proofiness work on this ….
Ted K
Pew isn’t the worst of the polls. There are like 3 or 4 majors and Andrew Sullivan had a really super terrific post on the 4 polls about a year and a half ago or something. In which he showed a graph with the 4 polls compared, and you could see one of them was adjusting the numbers how they wanted them. I would kill to give you that link here, but I’m too damned lazy to hunt for it. The search functions for Sullivan’s old Altantic blog was horrid, really horrid. I think Atlantic did that on purpose because they kept trying to swipe Sullivan’s traffic from him, but I digress. Nate Silver (on his old 538, before he joined NYT) has also had some posts I think showing that at least one of those pollers is just a rubber stamp for Republicans on any result they’re willing to pay for.
Ted K
Brad Delong had a post up on Israel. I put some comments up (although I used strong sarcasm they were all factual) and they got blocked. Here is the thing—-I am Christian, I support Israel as the eternal home of the Jews. But I am very tired (to put it mildly) of Netanyahu’s utter disdain for America (a country without which many Jews wouldn’t have a home, and without which Israel would NOT function on a world map) and Israel’s insistence on holding themselves to different standards than what they hold others to. And I know not all Jews support the genocide in Gaza at the end of 2008 (Norman Finkelstein has been honest and extremely ethical in this respect, as was Richard Goldstone before I assume he was threatened and pressured by his countrymen, and extreme-right conservative Jews in America).
See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvD-2BsPAQU
Maybe it’s a little “underhanded” of me to put this on Steve’s Site here, as it’s WAY off topic, and maybe Steve strongly disagrees with me, but I had to “vent” and I guess Steve wouldn’t block this, like Brad Delong blocks comments only for the sin of disagreeing with Delong’s opinions.
Ted K
The first link is in Negev, as the video tells. See if the men in black suits remind you of others who wore black uniforms from history.
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I spent some time earlier today trying to get my ahead around the whole Pew typology, as something(s) about it just left me … discombobulated. My first hint that something wasn’t right was – after taking the little short test to see where I fit – being classified as a Solid Liberal, only to see how often I was in the minority of Solid Liberals on specific topics. But I set that aside as just my personal discomfort being associated with brie and tofu eaters. Then I found this:
http://people-press.org/files/2011/05/2011-typology-s9-01.png
If more than 1 in 3 people classified as “Libertarian” are willing to “Give up privacy for safety from terrorism” but less than 1 in 4 “Solid Liberals” would do so, then something is just wrong with the typology, or the names. All the more reason I tell people I am a Libertarian Communist….
Pew needs more proofiness work on this ….
Pew isn’t the worst of the polls. There are like 3 or 4 majors and Andrew Sullivan had a really super terrific post on the 4 polls about a year and a half ago or something. In which he showed a graph with the 4 polls compared, and you could see one of them was adjusting the numbers how they wanted them. I would kill to give you that link here, but I’m too damned lazy to hunt for it. The search functions for Sullivan’s old Altantic blog was horrid, really horrid. I think Atlantic did that on purpose because they kept trying to swipe Sullivan’s traffic from him, but I digress. Nate Silver (on his old 538, before he joined NYT) has also had some posts I think showing that at least one of those pollers is just a rubber stamp for Republicans on any result they’re willing to pay for.
Brad Delong had a post up on Israel. I put some comments up (although I used strong sarcasm they were all factual) and they got blocked. Here is the thing—-I am Christian, I support Israel as the eternal home of the Jews. But I am very tired (to put it mildly) of Netanyahu’s utter disdain for America (a country without which many Jews wouldn’t have a home, and without which Israel would NOT function on a world map) and Israel’s insistence on holding themselves to different standards than what they hold others to. And I know not all Jews support the genocide in Gaza at the end of 2008 (Norman Finkelstein has been honest and extremely ethical in this respect, as was Richard Goldstone before I assume he was threatened and pressured by his countrymen, and extreme-right conservative Jews in America).
See here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvD-2BsPAQU
and Here:
http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/filmmaker-ken-loach-writer-arundhati-roy-and-nobel-laureate-mairead-maguire-read-from-the-goldstone-report/
Maybe it’s a little “underhanded” of me to put this on Steve’s Site here, as it’s WAY off topic, and maybe Steve strongly disagrees with me, but I had to “vent” and I guess Steve wouldn’t block this, like Brad Delong blocks comments only for the sin of disagreeing with Delong’s opinions.
The first link is in Negev, as the video tells. See if the men in black suits remind you of others who wore black uniforms from history.